INN is a Star Citizen fansite and is not officially affiliated with CIG, but we reprint their materials with permission as a service to the community. And we're only posting content about, you know, Black Lives Matter." Sesali: We kept having to explain to them why it was really important in all of our marketing materials when we were considering partnering with other companies and other brands, when we were talking about Unbothered that we did not use the word multicultural. On June 2, record-label executives Jamila Thomas and Brianna Agyemang urged their industry to take a break and reflect in the wake of nationwide protests over the murders of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor. For anyone interested in an educational podcast about philosophy where you don't need to be a graduate-level philosopher to understand it. Speak soon. Transcripts; Tags . But legions of current and former BIPOC employees beg to differ. Caroline: We’re back with Sesali Bowen. Caroline: Plus, Kerry follows the money and wades knee deep into venture capital. On top of that, the weekend before the article was set to publish, Amber Heard tweeted: "Just heard there's an ICE checkpoint in Hollywood, a few blocks from where I live. Review the transcript for episode 90 - the logistics of change: how to successfully relocate or remodel your business of unsuitable - Rea Associates Ohio CPA. Like I said with the Refinery story before, like, you know, people were willing to speak on the record, I had to, like, make a case about, like, why Refinery29 was this way. And I mean, honestly, when I was there, I was definitely greener than I am now. 0. Today we begin our discussion on the work of Friedrich Nietzsche. If you scroll through all the blackat29 stories, another name that comes up a lot is global president and chief content officer Amy Emmerich. And then we can go from there." And she's an easy sacrificial lamb to kind of throw, especially since, like, oh, she was resigning anyway. Khalea tweeted: “I was hired as a Beauty Writer in 2017 … a ‘natural hair writer’, specifically, is what I was told during my interviews. Text Dokument 33.0 KB. Cristen: Ashley was uncomfortable with Christene’s request from the jump. I'm Jack Shitama, and before we get started, I want to share that I have been on hiatus in The Non-Anxious Leader Network. Caroline: Ashley didn’t want Refinery29, and specifically the section she was in charge of, to be associated with those racist tweets and get dragged across the internet. Cristen: The vast majority of VC funding still goes to white men. I'm looking for the transcript for Episode 90 - Nietzsche Pt. The Company is committed to taking the appropriate action based upon the independent findings that Morgan Lewis provides.”. And I guess what I– the last thing that I want to say is that what I've noticed is that in these moments, it's always, like, the labor of black women to, like, not only experience this shit, but then to have to help others remedy their own actions and thoughts and behaviors to, like, treat us better. It's not something that's really practiced internally. But all the microaggressions along the way added up. Ashley: One of them was like, "Did you guys see Refinery blacked out the home page?" Cristen: On June 11, CNN Business published Kerry’s story exposing the problems that blackatR29 and the Refinery29 union had called out. Even though as a senior editor, I was doing the exact job, if not a bigger job than some of the directors. Sloppy Pop (song) [for a bit] Announcer Bunny: If you think that was fun, watch this! Caroline: So after y'all presented Unbothered to the rest of the company, what was the response like? Shruti Marathe transcribes our tape. Oh, my God, I'm being– I'm in meetings with Amy. But then to see so many people agreeing, I was like, OK. The following Transcripts are the written attributions of lines to their characters from the episodes. Today’s guest is Chaya Bhuvaneswar.. Hey everybody, welcome to the show. And the piece ran after that, because she was pretty much threatening that, you know, this is running. [/spp-transcript] The easiest way to listen to The PE Geek Podcast is via our dedicated mobile app, which you can download for FREE for iPhone/iPad & Android. We are such an inclusive, feminist front lines company," but we also treat our people like shit. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more! This was on top of stories shared by anonymous current employees. People are wearing whatever they want." Mike Sakasegawa: Hello, and welcome to Keep the Channel Open, a podcast featuring conversations with artists, writers, and curators.My name is Mike Sakasegawa and this is episode 90. And then when it came time for me to be promoted, I was promoted to deputy director, even though there was no one above me, and I wasn't given a real reason for that. They want to know what I think about this. But that's what everyone wants. You're really valuable. Six days after her BlackoutTuesday tweet went viral, Christene Barberich announced she was stepping down immediately, though the NYT reports that she's staying on as an advisor through the fall. Cristen: I mean, it definitely disrupted! She can feign not knowing what was going on. And while they tell you they can't pay you more, they can't give you a title they want, that you want, they go ahead and hire some other white woman with some high title and high pay. German Subs. Today on the show I’m talking with writer Chaya Bhuvaneswar. Paying your Black employees fairly, having Black women in top leadership positions & addressing the microaggressions your Black employees deal with from management on a daily basis.”, Caroline: Her thread continued: “How much $ has @refinery29 made off their Black & POC employees? Ashley: Amy has been running the company. It's it's unfortunate. He’s a professor of epidemiology in the NYU School of Global Public Health and a Founding … Continue reading Transcript of Episode 90 – Joshua Epstein … But what struck Kerry was how Black, indigenous and other staffers of color were concentrated toward the bottom of the Refinery hierarchy. Full podcast transcript available. Sesali: So basically in terms of how management handled it, Amy Emmerich... Cristen: Remember, Emmerich is the President and Chief Content Officer of Refinery29 … among other things …. like really? She didn't apologize. This article is a transcript of the Between the Lions episode "The Popcorn Popper" from season one, which aired on April 24, 2000. For a while, she even felt like one of the leadership’s favorites. You know, like, respond. And yet it really didn't take me long to discover that if I want to write about what it was like to work at Refinery29, the short answer was not good. Sesali worked as an entertainment writer at Refinery 29 from November 2016 to December 2018, and she’s one of the original minds behind Unbothered — the Refinery sub-brand started by and for Black women. Ashley: with all the past events that have happened in the past few weeks from starting with Amy Cooper and George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery, and just– there's just so many things, and I think especially the Amy Cooper thing kind of resonated with me. And I was like, "Oh, my God, I'm so valued at this company. Caroline: So, how did management respond? Cristen: The reckoning is far from over, too. Caroline: Ashley worked at Refinery29 from November 2017 to April 2019, first as a senior news and politics editor, then as the section’s deputy director. The senior positions and even into mid-level management were noticeably white, compared to folks actually making and promoting the content. save. So, I sent her a very nice e-mail and just saying, "Hey Christene, I just have some concerns about this, given what Amber had tweeted over the weekend and the tone of this piece. Cristen: The hashtag BlackatR29 and Ashley’s original Twitter thread emboldened more than THIRTY other current and former staffers to publicly share their experiences of working while black at r29. So, how has that become clearer to you in hindsight versus when you were still on staff there? We are black women, this is for black women. Execs would pull her into meetings to get her thoughts on various projects. Eggheads; previous. HaHe_F090_de.srt.txt. Episode Transcript. 756 members in the PhilosophizeThis community. Listen In Your Favorite Podcast APP Apple Podcasts Google Podcasts RadioPublic Stitcher Spotify TuneIn . Amy Emmerich is a fucking hustler, OK? Please check with us before using any quotations from this transcript. Caroline: That time the editor-in-chief ran her fingers through a Black employee’s hair? Anybody that can help? She was killin it! It was still part of it. You know, I felt so much, like, the black pop culture that I was covering, it was me talking to white people about black people in pop culture, and I wanted to talk to black people about black pop culture, if that makes sense. Kerry: My editor actually made a comparison weeks ago that like this is like the MeToo movement in the fact that like this, just like you're like this person goes, this person goes. Sesali: Oh, it was super congratulatory. But I think there's really something to this industry when you're put in a position of power and you're now like running a legitimate business, that people lose sight in that. Ally was the only person who was formally assigned to it, and even she had other responsibilities in her actual job title. And the current employee was like, "Yeah, we did that earlier today. The Black Lives Matter protests that have broken out across the country are calling into account not only the police violence that led to the murder of George Floyd, but also the ways that white women like Amy Cooper perpetuate white supremacy and systemic racism every day. Executive producers are Chris Bannon, Daisy Rosario and Unladylike Media. And as Ashley told us, all these former and current staffers rallied together because they genuinely care about each other and the meaningful content they've created despite the toxic workplace environment. Am, like, am I going crazy? English Subs. Caroline: Dumping piles of venture capital in digital media companies like Refinery29 doesn't just build up the churn-and-burn problem for the folks making the content. Media reporter Kerry Flynn had been investigating the dynamics inside the company for the previous 9 months before the black-at-R29 hashtag hit. I think this just accelerated the situation. Now that I know what– now that I know what marketing professionals make, in comparison to what I make, it's- it's it’s infuriating. Cristen: Up next, we’ll talk to Kerry Flynn, a media reporter at CNN Business who spent 9 months reporting on the workplace culture at Refinery29. The women built Unbothered themselves from the ground up without any formal resources - brainstorming ideas for their channel and sending them past legal, plus building out pitch decks and identifying potential brands to partner with .. as well as brands to avoid. Episode 90 Deutsch English SRT. Donate Via PayPal . 1 comment. Cristen: That’s the month she joined CNN Business. Renato Beninatto is the co-author of The General Theory of the Translation Company and leads Nimdzi Insights, a think-tank and consulting company that focuses on growth strategies for localization leaders. Ana: And I’m Ana. But in the end, I'm really happy I did it. Podcast Episode 90: A Short Message to my Network and Supporters! Like, Refinery29 in 2016 was just, like, I think the place that any, you know, kind of millennial girl trying to get into media would want to work. Welcome to Episode 90 of The Non-Anxious Leader podcast. And you're left wondering, "Hmm, that's interesting." And I remember the executive editor at the time who was my manager was like, "Yeah, you know," –and Andrea has tons of followers on Twitter. Ashley: Christene wanted us to publish it because at Refinery, upper management has kind of, like, an obsession with celebrities. Caroline: Overwork and underpay are hallmarks of digital media. But a big thrust of the story was the massive pay disparity and the quote unquote, what people told me, the untenable pace. This idea that media companies perhaps just aren't the best places to work. And these you know people, they had this mission. They kind of want to be "in" with these people. No, you're kind of stepping aside in disgrace. Caroline: When we come back, we’re talking with former Refinery29 senior entertainment writer Sesali Bowen. The site was founded in 2005 by two white men — Justin Stefano and Philippe von Borries — as a blog about New York design and fashion. Jim: Today’s guest is Josh Epstein. And Amy Emmerich has the gift of gab. She does really amazing work. Looking for the Transcript for Episode 90. Sound design and additional music is by Casey Holford. Coming soon. Caroline: Meanwhile, white feminism has attracted a bit more than crumbs. But when it comes down to it, a lot of people in power are just blinded by the fact that they they need to make money and for a Refinery for a while, it was “we need to sell this company.” And it just it just loses that. And spoiler: Her findings back up all the major themes raised in the #blackatR29 tweets. Cristen: Less than a decade after launching, Refinery had become one of the fastest growing media companies in the US, valued at $500M. And I'm scared that if I speak out, then Christene or someone else at the company is going to make sure I never get a job again in this industry that I want to keep working in. Michael Sakasegawa June 5, 2019 . Caroline: Another significant reason R29 is our case study today? Nothing was done. And you're - she's no martyr. And I really did not expect the tweet to blow up in any sort of way. Corroborated. Hey everyone! : oh, my God, I 'm not the case other women of color there Project... 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